A record 5 million entrepreneurs started businesses in 2023. Instead of swimming in cash, most will find themselves buried under a mountain of crap. Join Jeff Berman, co-host of the popular Masters of Scale podcast, as he interviews serial entrepreneurs and investors Kass and Mike Lazerow about the insights in their new book, Shoveling $h!t: A Love Story. Learn how Kass and Mike found beauty in the entrepreneurial struggle, lived the “Imbalanced Life,” and overcame the pitfalls that await every founder, from picking co-founders to building high-performing teams and cult-like cultures.