The best audio pieces don’t tell you what to pay attention to -- they show you. In the Jetty podcast Closer Than They Appear, writer Carvell Wallace set out to face his own past and reckon with America’s, to see if we can all move forward together. It could have been just a whole lot of talking. But a collaboration with beatbox band Antique Naked Soul turned tell into show. The band says their music “takes the listener on a journey through time by creating and remixing Black American liberation music through beatboxing and live looping.” In this session, Carvell talks with musicians Candice Antique and Tommy Soulati Shepherd about their music, its role in the public sphere, and why musicians and podcasters should always work together. And yes, you’ll get to hear them do their thing!

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